The Summer Cure

In this episode, Val and Presley discuss the "summer cure"—that noticeable shift when children seem happier, more relaxed, and more like themselves once school is out and summer routines take over. From extra sunshine and outdoor play to less pressure and more freedom, we'll explore why summer can have such a positive impact on a child's mental and emotional well-being.

Summer is a time to seek both fun and growth in our relationships with each other and God. Join us as we dive into questions about what is summer revealing about your child's need and how to parent in the season of sunshine. 

CDC Milestone Tracker App: https://www.cdc.gov/act-early/milestones-app/index.html

BabySparks - Developmental Tracker & Online Learning for Parents: https://babysparks.com/

Harvard's Center for the Developing Child: Three Core Concepts in Early Development: https://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/videos/three-core-concepts-in-early-development/

Building Social-Emotional Skills at Home: https://www.naeyc.org/our-work/families/building-social-emotional-skills-at-home

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome to the Whole Person Parenting Podcast. We're here to have honest conversations about how to follow Jesus and parent kids in a whole person way. For more content and encouragement as we support you on your journey, you can find us on Instagram, YouTube, and wherever you get your podcast. We're so glad you're here. Now let's jump in. Hey everyone, welcome back to the whole person parenting podcast. Um I just waved. I don't know why. That's okay. Yes but welcome. Yes but welcome. Also, wave. Yeah. I didn't wave. Did it again? We just like to wave around here. Yeah. We're just we're just waving. Waving. For everyone listening, then they don't know. But we just waved. Um It's a good week to be here. Yeah. And we have we've ventured into summertime. Yeah, even though the weather has not been reflecting it for anyone who lives in Oklahoma. But the rain has been very torrential. But it is summertime. We've had a couple pool days and gotten to lay out in the pool soak in the summer rays. Yep. It's a nice little vitamin D. Yeah. Especially summertime. And so we thought we would do just a summer episode. Yeah. Um talk about summer um and something that happens during summer with mental health. But first, yeah. We're just gonna talk about what we like to do in the summer. Okay. That sounds good. For anyone who's curious. I my favorite summer thing is paddle boarding. I love paddleboarding.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Yes. Stop. I don't think we talked about that on here. You can talk about it if you want to. That was not a summer moment, that was a fall break moment. But it was paddle boarding. Once upon a time when Presley was about 13 years old.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Was I 13?

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Yes. Uh we were in Dustin, Florida, and she we rented paddleboards for she does love to paddle board, and so we know this and I do love to paddle board. Anyway, she decided to just fully embrace the relaxation of the moment, and she felt like that she was stayed very close to the shore.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

I did. Like I mean, I mean, I wouldn't say very close. I knew I was further.

SPEAKER_00 2:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

But I was like very comfortable. Yes, I knew. I didn't feel at any point like I was too far out or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

And mind you, she did not have a life jacket on because it was supposed to be just paddleboarding with kind of a little bit of a short.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Yeah, a pro paddle boarder as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Yes. Uh yeah, in in Oklahoma, where there is no ocean.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Okay, I've paddleboarded a lot of places.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

I know you have, but I'm just saying, anyway. I said this is you can tell is still a source of contention just a little bit. Yes, it is a bit. But it um it turned out that Presley was farther away than she thought she was. She managed to come back in. But yeah, I was that's why I was like, for about for about 30 minutes, it she was so far away that even the lifeguards could not see her with binoculars.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Which is crazy because I wasn't laying down for thirty minutes.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Yeah, no, you were just that far away. Yeah. And so every once in a while they would get to like spot you, and they were just like, She just looks like she's having a good time. Maybe she's just like enjoying a little freedom. Yeah. And the and they were like, Wait, we think she just keeps laying down on her paddle board and then and then standing back up. Yeah. But in the meantime, her dad and I are literally like having meltdowns on the beach. Like not okay. I was not okay. I was I was very scared. But she made it back. We're glad. Yeah. Held held hands. Oh she made it back. And so all was well, but that was yeah. The power I mean, you just can't say paddleboarding without me thinking of that story ever. Yeah. Like for the rest of your of my life, I believe. Yeah. I don't know about the rest of yours, but I do love to paddleboard.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

She does. She loves all things.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Ocean, surfing, paddleboarding. Yeah. All of those things.

SPEAKER_01 4:48

Um yeah, I feel like this summer especially I've just been like, if I'm inside, I just want to be outside. And that's not always been the summertime for me. Because usually I'm like, oh, it's hot.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

But this summer specifically, I've been like, if I'm working, I'm outside. Yeah. If I'm doing anything, I'm trying to do it outside, reading outside. So that's really nice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Yeah. I like to be outside too. I think that when I I think one of my favorite things about summer is like being with like a group of friends or family and like cooking out and um just like hanging outside around the pool or you know, just eating like fresh cut fruit I really love. Fresh cut fruit. And like hamburgers on the grill, that kind of thing. Like that all I've eaten a lot of fruit makes me happy.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

A lot.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

The expression on her face. I just hit my mind. Because like she shocked herself.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Yeah, I've eaten a lot of fruit. I'm thinking of a story because I we also love like uh eating dessert in summertime. But there's a couple specific ones.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

So like let's be honest, we like eating dessert all year round. We literally like a family problem. Oh, we all like it. All like large family problems, extended family.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

We all have like yeah, but we love like specifically banana pudding. We eat that a lot in the summertime and like blueberry stuff, which is this it's literally called blueberry stuff.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

It's a homemade. Yeah, it's like a family recipe.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

It's a family recipe, yeah. It's pretty good. And we should make that soon, actually. Yeah, she's getting hungry. She's wanting dessert right now. It's the cravings taken over. The cravings are taken over, more fruit. But I'm thinking of the specific year where uh oh my gosh, where uh my grandma, yeah, calling Anna, uh decided to make some ice cream. Oh yeah. That's so funny. This is a funny story.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

And in the like homemade ice cream, like in that maker.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Like an old ice cream maker.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Yeah. Well, I mean it was electric. It was electricity. It wasn't cranking it, but it was but it was moving, like it was doing the whole freezing thing, like slowly. Yes, you know, like where you're turning and turning and churning.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

And you're having to add in stuff as it's going. Like check the eyes, it was like a whole process.

SPEAKER_02 7:20

Like, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Um, and I don't know exactly what happened. Maybe you do. Because I just remember the taste of it.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Somebody, I feel I feel like it was maybe your brother, like, took a bite of it and he was like, This ice cream does not taste good. And then yeah, I kind of just after it had been churning for hours. Yeah, she'd been making it like all day, it seems like anyway. So I kind of thought he was just being a little difficult. He was kind of in the ice cream a lot, too. And anyway, I took a bite of that ice cream and spit it out immediately because like a hole had gotten into the like the cylinder that goes in the middle of it. It was awful. And so then all of the rock salt that you have to put in to keep the ice cold around the outside of it is not it actually like seeped into the ice cream, so the ice cream was just like straight salt.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

It tasted so bad. It was I felt so bad. I felt so bad for Nana because she had been working so hard on it.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

I know. But we got redemption for that. We were all longing for that. We also wanted that ice cream. Yeah, we did. We really, really wanted it.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

But it's okay. Yeah, yeah. That was a good moment though. But yeah, we we love Fourth of July. Yeah, we're not like people that go all out for it, but we do enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Enough. I want to write my name in Sparkler. You know what I mean? Like Yeah. I do. I want to write my name in Sparkler.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

No, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

I feel a little judgment coming in from your direction.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

I I don't think I've ever seen you do that.

SPEAKER_00 8:54

I do it every year. I you're you're off doing something else. I am by myself writing my name in Sparkler.

unknown 9:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

You're busy making those like snakes. Oh, no, I don't like the snakes or like the buzzing bees.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Yeah, I like the buzzing bees because they go on forever. They do. They do. I'm I'm convinced I'm gonna get to do a Roman candle this year. You guys never let me do that.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Well, I don't want you holding a Roman candle because that's not the way they're supposed to be done. Because they can backfire.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Well, if it backfires, it backfires.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

Then we're going to the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

At least I had the experience.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

And maybe a scar from the burn.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Well, this is what adulthood looks like in um yeah, child re rearing. She might do a Roman candle. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

But as kids, like um we did a lot of fun summer activities because dad was home because he was a teacher, and so he had summer break or dean or whatever. Yeah, he was yeah, he had summer pretty much all the all the way off. And so we would do like uh we did water wars every summer where we would just get a ton of like water balloons and we would just spray each other and it was so fun. Um dad also did like uh summer school for us. Yeah. It wasn't like intensive, but like he we would do like uh if we were learning about states, he would try to like get something from each state, like a yeah, a recipe or something that they eat there, or uh just something unique about it and try to teach us about it. So I always remember those being fun. Um Yeah, you guys had a lot of fun with Daddy. He would take you on field trips. Oh, lots of field trips. Like we would go to the zoo pretty frequently. Yeah. Aquarium. The aquarium. We would just go a lot of places, a lot of hikes and things, so yeah. It was always fun. Um so yeah, we love summertime. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

So we were thinking about this episode about like I I wanna I wanna, you know, share like some summer uh tips and and things to think about in the summertime. And as I was thinking about it, I I thought of something that I've noticed with my my clients, like as a therapist, that and even like the children of of adult clients, but that it seems like things get better in the summer and like for the most part. And um as far as like the child's mental health or like how they're doing, how they're feeling, how they're functioning. And so I just think I the way I thought about that was it's almost like a summer cure that kind of happens, and um, and so I just started being curious about that, and so we started talking about it and just thinking about you know, why might that be? And I don't know if any of you have experienced this, this like while um, you know, the summer can be chaotic with your children and you know, all the plans and things that you have going on or the shifting around of things, but that that children all also and teens also seem to um kind of seem better in the summertime a lot of times. Happier.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

I've I've experienced it for sure where I feel happier, less stressed, yeah, uh more honestly more engaged with my friends was my experience is I was like closer with my friends than in the school year. I spent more time hanging out with people and things like that. Yeah in the summertime.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Yeah. I think some of it has to do with like the weather, the daylight hours, but just like being able to get outside um more, having more like space in your day, being able to sleep more. Um, like I wonder about that too, because kids have to get up so early if if they're not um if they don't have other options like virtual or homeschool, like where they have to get up so early in the morning to go to school every day and they're there all day long, and just how how um taxing that is. It's kind of like the equivalent of working a 40-hour work week. Um you know, but but for a kid.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

I remember for a while in high school, I think it was part of it was like I was kind of depressed, but I was getting back from school and I'd just take a nap until then like every single day.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Like because I literally like I and I'm very I'm very much someone that's like, I need to do my homework, like I need to get it done. Like it wasn't even like I was procrastinating. It was just like I literally cannot imagine doing anything else but sleeping right now.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Yeah, I remember feeling like that too, and I also took those naps, and I just think about I know not everyone's experience is the same for school, but I I from my experience, I I think it is a lot of kids experience this. I just said experience so many times, but anyway, it's just experience. I think a lot of kids um have this uh where they they feel just a lot more stress in in the school.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Yeah, especially like the upper, like I would say like nine to eighteen areas. I mean, like I feel like younger kids typically are like, I love school. I loved school as a as a as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

Um but yeah, especially as I got older, it felt like summer was like a relief for yeah, well, and I think especially for kids who have um you know struggle with behavioral problems or like maybe talking a lot, they're more maybe a little more hyperactive or maybe a little inattentive. Um, you know, even if they don't have like full-blown ADHD, it just makes it difficult to be in an environment where they um they can't like move freely and they have to stay concentrated on something for longer periods of time. They have to comply with like the expectations and the rules of the classroom because the teacher has so many students, and so it just um, you know, that can create definitely negative experiences where there's not a lot of positive interaction with adults, and so maybe this shifts a little bit um in the summertime.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Yeah. Yeah. I think uh I think there's a lot of like uh when we're talking about the cure, like specifically, is it it does seem like there's a lot of symptoms that seem to just kind of go away. Right. Too. Um like uh kids might be less they're not as isolated. Um their uh temperament like is better, like they're less short, or mood, moody, yeah. Um they seem more willing to do things, um more energized, more excited, um, which are all things that we want. Like we all like want to be in a place where we're not moody, where we're not isolated, or at least you want your kid to be that way, they even if they don't want it themselves. Um, and so I just think it's important to think about like okay, what are the differences in summer that are leading to this? And you just mentioned some of them. It was like you can move freely, you can um, like I know for me like UV rays are like a big more sunshine. Yeah, sunshine. Like I get like when I don't get a lot of sunshine, like I start feeling really down. Um and so that's always been like helpful for me. Being more active, more I've more I'm more active, I'm getting uh exercise, which is like releasing endorphins in my brain. Um and I will say even from experience, like this past winter was someone that one of the happiest winters I've been in a long time because I was spending time in the gym. I'm not saying this to like brag or anything, because it was a very short amount of time in the gym. But never was pumping iron, you know, getting other muscles. But I was just doing I just got a gym membership and I I just have never done that in the winter before. I've never had the motivation to do that, but I had friends at college. Yeah, I had friends at college who would we would all do it together, and so that was like you know, motivating. But uh I don't endorse this, but I also was in the tanning beds, which means I was getting UV. And I don't know if that was really contributing, but I definitely felt happier. That's true. That is there's I know I know that for uh discrepancies about tanning beds, but yeah, yeah, there's just I'm not endorsing it or anything, I'm just saying it did feel make me feel happier because I was getting UV. So yeah. Um yeah, I don't know if you can like give more like on the psychology aside or something like that, of why this is the case, but also like how to carry that over into like all the time, like what what changes can be made in how parenting is happening that can help their child to be able to like I think some of it is is that in the summertime you have to be more intentional about how you're engaging your child because you're aware that they've been home all day or they've you know they're getting restless, and so you, you know, you may be engaging with them more.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

And so I wonder about, you know, how can you how can you just think about engagement with my child on a daily basis? Um, that that's happening. And it doesn't even have to be like a long time. But when I talk about engagement with your child, it's you know, it's not like the 20 questions game that you're playing like with them, but it's it's um unless you want to play a game. But I I mean like in a sense of just like this like quizzing them one that did you went to what did you do now and what did you do then and what you know, but like these more like open-ended, kind of engaging questions. Um, you know, tell me about your day. Tell me about I don't know what uh what you're looking forward to. Um vacation.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Are you so excited for yeah, what are you most excited about?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

What was your favorite part about this? Like just getting just being able to stay engaged with them and not just let the the um the summer go by. I mean, I think we're just more apt to do that in the summertime, probably because we ourselves are less stressed. So I also think about, you know, for kids, when kids get out of school, um, there's there's kind of there's maybe a different kind of stress that comes on, but the hustle and bustle of the school year often um, you know, creates another level of stress that we just don't feel in this when school is not in session. Yeah because we don't have to get to the programs and you know worry about soccer practice or yeah, all of the games or practices, you know, in the same way. Um and we benefit from sunshine and outdoor activity ourselves. Same way, yeah. Yeah. And so um, you know, just recognizing though that what I want to take away from that is that our stress, our stress levels as parents will impact your child's stress level because they're gonna feel um, you know, are you are you uh short with them? Are you do you seem down yourself? Are they gonna be concerned about what's going on with you because you seem not to be yourself today because maybe stress is stressors are going on? Um you may not take the time to engage with them because you have so much on your mind or you feel very tired yourself. And so I think what I would want to consider to not just have the summer cure, but to actually have the benefits that we see happen in summer, like to actually reflect on that, like what what what is beneficial to my child during the summer that we could continue to carry on all throughout the year? What's beneficial about our relationship? What's beneficial about the way that I'm showing up as a parent that I could pay more attention to no matter what time of year it is, and we don't have to just see like you know the summer cure time.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Yeah, for sure. I I and I think too, like it's important to acknowledge that like um there is there there is no like cure. I mean, there's gonna be seasons of where the things are harder, um, where like kids are like having some serious struggles and we don't want to just expect them to be upbeat all the time if they're actually going through something and just brush over it and be like, Why aren't you happier? Yeah. Um and so Like there are seasons of where, you know, things do seem like, okay, they're doing really well. But there's also seasons where, okay, there's something going on. I need to be more um attentive and attuned to what they need. Yeah. And that might not be, you want to go bowling tonight? You know, like it might be in the summertime. Because we did that a lot as kids too. We did go bowling a lot. But um it might be just you want to sit together and, you know, do something very chill, like creative or play games.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Yeah. It's something to like continually engage. Because I also wonder if it's like what it's like, you know, for kids whenever they have like a very disengaged parent during certain times of the year, and then a very engaged parent at other times. And what they might internalize about that, like what they might think about um why that's happening, and um what it might mean about them, what it might be about the relationship. And there can be, yeah, there can be stress on the relationship itself whenever you have, you know, a little bit of inconsistency in how you're showing up. And to Presley's point, we don't want, we don't think it's we don't think it's um necessary or it's um even healthy for people, parents or kids to always be, you know, Miss Suzy Sunshine or whatever, you know, like it that's not the that's not the point. That's not the normal.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

So what about like the kids who are having to spend most of the day on screens or not having to, but they are. Yeah. Because maybe their parents aren't there and that's just the easiest thing to do, to be in like entertained and yeah just watching movies or TV all day or scrolling or YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Yeah. I mean, I know I know that it's not like um not every family can afford to have childcare. Um, not every family can is going on a bunch of vacations all summer long or um has the same access that other families do. And so totally acknowledge like that that's that could be a possibility that your child is going to be spending a little more time on screens than typical, you know. I would I do my best to try to mitigate that as much as I can, if that means like putting a timer on your television where they can't do that all day long, um, putting controls on phones, having downtime for screen time, like all of those things are possible. Like you can, you can um even from a distance um look at like how much screen time are you are you having and what kind of access do you have? Like that doesn't have to be a foregone conclusion that that's the way you spend your time. Um and just understanding that there needs to be balance. I mean, it's not to say that they can't watch anything or they can't play a game, but you know, when I do, I mean, because occasionally I will have clients like that too, where um it's like all I'm doing all day long every day is I'm on, you know, my phone or I'm on the you know, I'm watching TV or movies and I'm by myself doing this. And for those kids, I will see a decline. There are kids who their outlet is school, and and so, you know, as parents, we do need to be, even if we can't be with them, we're we need to still be responsible for them. Yeah, that's right. And what they're doing and um doing our best to try to mitigate just you know only spending all of your time on on screens. But I mean sometimes it's like you can't help it that they're you know that they're home and you're at work.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

And that's real. Um so I mean we've we've had seasons like that because you know, dad became principal and um fortunately my my job was able to shift around the same kind of times where things got a little more flexible for me. Yeah. But um, you know, where there's you know, before you guys could drive and take yourselves places, um, you may be home. But, you know, what I'm thinking of is I did I did give you tasks to do. I gave you like assignments.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

You like things you're gonna do today. Yeah. One of them I remember one time was with me and Brandon had to sing together and send you a video. Yes. So we sang Bruno Mars. Yeah, yeah. Which is funny. But yeah, uh, yeah, you gave us things to do. Um so that we could interact with each other and yeah, each other and um not just be watching TV. Yeah, watching TV.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

We guys also made quite a few concoctions in the kitchen, so yeah. There was some wasted grocery items during the city.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

There was definitely some wasted grocery items. We loved watching uh cooking shows and then making and then trying to do our own yeah, doing our own where we only had three ingredients. You gotta make out of a meada these three ingredients. It's always tortillas. It was always tortillas ramen and uh maybe like a carrot or yeah, a peanut butter. Yeah. It was pretty nasty, but it was funny.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

It was we did love watching these shows together. But like, yeah, setting up um setting up a schedule for them, even if you're not gonna be there. Um, setting up a schedule in the daytime where you've got time together, you've got time outside, you've got time um in interaction potentially with friends in some way, yeah. Um, where maybe they're doing something that's like stimulating their creativity, you know, or if they need to if they need to practice their uh skills in math or in reading over the summer that you're assigning things for them to read.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

We always did the summer to reading program with the library and we loved it every year. We did that. Yeah, we're gonna be able to until about like 13.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

But like there was I think there was an age out, but like yeah, we did that. Yeah, and then you get like coupons for things and you would get to go do those activities. Yeah, it was really fun. So yeah, getting engaged in those kinds of things. If you have the opportunity to send your kids to camps, um like I know that a lot of you know, a lot of churches will sponsor vacation bible school, sponsor um different kinds of camps or um like conferences. Um, like I know our church does those things. And a lot of times there are scholarships available or they're completely free. So like take the opportunity to um help support your child and like their spiritual development over the summer because that's gonna be something that's one of the most important things that they're gonna take with them into the following school year. And I I know like I like for myself, I think I saw for you guys like a lot of growth happen spiritually in summertime when there weren't a lot of distractions.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

Yeah. Um and then summer's kind of just this like really cool if you if you see it this way, it's a really cool opportunity for like a set aside time of growth. Yeah, like a reset, sort of like a reset, yeah. Of like, okay, let me go back, let me let me return to like if they've been struggling with their like faith, return to the father, like let me like get challenged um and and reflect on what I'm doing, but also like my friendships, or just like there's so many different things for each person that I feel like summer is always a a time of growth for me, yeah. Just kind of reflecting and getting challenged.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

So yeah. And I think, you know, it could be I know that like for for our church we do something called the summer in the psalms, but I was thinking too in um summer in the psalms, but I was thinking about just having some kind of specific sort of reading plan. You know, are you are you reading proverbs? Are you um, you know, every day? Are you reading a psalm every day? If you can just start incorporating those things, because then this is something that can become a habit. You know, if you need 30 days for a habit, then you're gonna have, you know, basically 90 days of summer where you're gonna be able to create had good habits that you're gonna be able to carry forward. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Um that's good. Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Embrace the season.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Embrace the season. It's a new season, it's a new day.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

It's a new day. It's a new day.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

I was thinking of a worship song. It's a new season. Oh, but we won't sing we won't sing too much of it because we don't have to pay royalties. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

That's hilarious. But yeah, I feel like that um unless there's anything else you want to say.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

No, I feel like that was I feel like that's what what we wanted to get to. And um we hope it's inspiring. Like that's more than anything. I just I I hope that you at some point thought of something in this um during this episode that sparked, you know, a thought of maybe I need to attune to what my child needs, or I want to think about what their experience is over summer. Um, I want to think about how I can be more intentional about how they're spending their time, about our relationship, about their relationship with the Lord. I mean, there's all kinds of all kinds of things. And then and then what what about summer is actually helpful for them that we could carry into um the next school year.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah. Dream up all sorts of things of what you could do. Yeah. Be creative with ideas of how you can engage your child. Yeah. Because those are the ones that they'll probably remember. So that's so true. Thanks for listening and uh as always oh wave. Follow us on Instagram, uh, subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast. Um so I will see you guys next time. Bye. Bye.